Canada is just our northern territory

Irrational behaviour and incomprehensible decisions 101 - this is the place. If they're really silly, you could win a chocolate fish.* (* Highly unlikely and they're only virtual chocolate fish)

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Canada is just our northern territory

Post by marika3 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:44 am

Now I've seen it all in TradeMe land...

A week ago sold small 80c lot to "John" from Nelson.
A few days later he advised me that he is Fergus from Canada, and can pay by international bank draft by mail, for which he needs my postal address.
He did not ask questions before bidding. My first thought was that he is Kiwi on overseas holiday, but then, reading his feedback, I found that he trades from Canada for many YEARS.
I said that would post to Canada, if he arranges bank deposit - the only payment method I accept on these lots - through his relatives or friends in NZ.
He then sent me numerous emails with sorrow stories of his life, on how bank draft "as good as cash", and even with names and email addresses of other TM sellers who would certify he is good reliable buyer.

Link to auction
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... 1122306785

Buyer's feedback
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Feedba ... er=1468696
norton500 (134 positive feedback)
Name: John
Location: Nelson
Member Since: February-2006

385 positive feedbacks. 135 are from individual members, and count towards the final rating.
0 neutral feedbacks.
1 negative feedback, which is from a single member and counts towards the final rating.

Last logged in: 24 July 2016
Member since: February 2006
Listings in the last two months: 0
Final rating: 135 - 1 = 134
Is an authenticated member
Quotes from his feedback - check the dates:
fyndem (844) 11/2/07
norton500 was the buyer
(#84462268)
Another good trade with this overseas member. Many thanks

kladunsta (1187) 4/1/10
norton500 was the buyer
(#258473356)
Excellent overseas trader. Good communication and fast payment. AAA+++

greenlivin (689) 29/3/10
norton500 was the buyer
(#275632733)
thankyou for payment posted 25 april to your canada address.wishing you and your family all the best

dea5 (498) 5/4/10
norton500 was the buyer
(#279163942)
Thanks for the trade. Hope all will be well in Canada. Posted item today.

badjiboy (491) 15/4/15
norton500 was the buyer
(#861361417)
Easy transaction even though the buyer lives in Canada. Thanks Fergus.

gsd3 (59 59 positive feedback) 8/10/15
norton500 was the buyer
(#946581023)
Good overseas trader with excellent communication and prompt payment

jiddle (461 461 positive feedback) 17/12/15
norton500 was the buyer
(#986713109)
All good.Your bid against yourself covered the post to Canada. thank you

heatherlea1 (545 545 positive feedback) 17/12/15
norton500 was the buyer
(#986565045)
Interesting experience selling to an overseas buyer but all went well. Thanks

justlookin56 (695 695 positive feedback) 4/6/16
norton500 was the buyer
(#1080237683)
Trade not completed. Buyer not in NZ
Note, that all these feedbacks are positive, and none of sellers ever reported him to TradeMe. For many years!
Philatelists are nice people, and many of them trade internationally on other sites. But rules are rules, right?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/help/143/terms-and-conditions
4.3 Your obligations as a buyer
a. You must be located in New Zealand or Australia to buy on Trade Me. People outside of these countries are not permitted to purchase items on Trade Me.

c. If you are notified that your bid has been successful, you must complete the transaction in the manner specified. By making a bid, you warrant and represent that you have the legal right to enter into and complete the transaction.
So I emailed TradeMe and got prompt reply:
Hi Marina,

Thanks for getting in touch regarding your listing 'NZ 1987 New Zealand Post used - P137021306'.
I appreciate you making us aware of this situation, and I've made our site security team aware of the buyer's location.
Feel free to simply pull the plug on the trade, Marina. If you haven't stated you accept a bank cheque for payment, then don't feel pressured into doing so.
If you need our interference at all then just let me know how I can help. Otherwise, we will take care of the buyer from our end, Marina.
Regards,
Graham
Trade Me Support
I "pulled the plug" and left him negative feedback:
marika3 (1077) 25/7/16
norton500 was the buyer
(#1122306785)

Buyer is in Canada, refused to pay by bank deposit and insisted on international bank draft by mail. By TM T&C "You must be located in New Zealand or Australia to buy on Trade Me. People outside of these countries are not permitted to purchase items on Trade Me." By advice from TM Support trade cancelled. Buyer reported to TM Security Team.
Will see how it goes from there.
http://www.oneway.co.nz/member/marika3

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Re: Canada is just our northern territory

Post by marika3 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:18 am

Finally
This membership has been disabled.
Took a while.
Note that TM stopped to hide closed accounts and you can still access them:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Feedba ... er=1468696
http://www.oneway.co.nz/member/marika3

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Re: Canada is just our northern territory

Post by digidog » Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:39 am

marika3 wrote:Note that TM stopped to hide closed accounts and you can still access them
That only applies if you are involved in an active trade with the disabled person. The rest of us just see "410 - page gone".

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