Suspicous and Fake Flash Drives

Fake copies of Microsoft Office, operating systems, memory cards and flash drives, fake designer clothing... anything of that nature. At any given time TM offers thousands of fake itmes which breach their terms & conditions... and often do little about the problem. This is the place to discuss the issue.
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Re: Suspicous and Fake Flash Drives

Post by Googlybear » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:44 pm

USB Flash Drive 64Gb
http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/exte ... 390855.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Suspicous and Fake Flash Drives

Post by Googlybear » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:46 pm

512GB Memory stick... $1.00 reserve
http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/exte ... 097817.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Never a shortage of gullible bidders

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Re: Suspicous and Fake Flash Drives

Post by Googlybear » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:48 pm

TM are still allowing the kingston ripoffs to be listed.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/exte ... 138415.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

so much for this rule
http://www.trademe.co.nz/help/742/intel ... ghts-guide" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Suspicous and Fake Flash Drives

Post by Googlybear » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:55 pm

Massive 512GB USB Memory stick
http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/exte ... 031396.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

mashster
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Listin ... er=2191782" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

How sad after eBay had a clean out of the fake junk last year, they let it lapse back to being worse than ever
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid= ... &_from=R40" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Suspicous and Fake Flash Drives

Post by Googlybear » Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:55 pm

There seems to be a lot of the fake 64Gb Toshibas around now

http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/exte ... 835220.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Flash-Mem ... B008TUG5XY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


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Re: Suspicous and Fake Flash Drives

Post by Googlybear » Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:59 pm

And back to the kingstons

http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/exte ... 974369.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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not very good quality
Fake would be a more appropriate term

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Re: Suspicous and Fake Flash Drives

Post by Googlybear » Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:14 pm

There seems to be a rash of the unbranded sticker-for-the-capacity-size drives that have the metal swivel cap protector

http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/exte ... 330221.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/exte ... 292105.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/exte ... 821175.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/exte ... 636756.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/exte ... 095790.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/exte ... 105186.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/exte ... 637573.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/exte ... 449384.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Any drive over 16Gb is going to have fake capacity

courtesy of the usual junk sites
https://www.google.co.nz/#q=%22No+need+ ... l&safe=off" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Suspicous and Fake Flash Drives

Post by Googlybear » Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:42 pm

TM couldn`t be bothered to remove real_one1`s fake toshiba auction

he has another one listed
http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/exte ... 657450.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Suspicous and Fake Flash Drives

Post by Googlybear » Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:45 pm

Poor Toshiba a getting a hiding

http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/exte ... 938319.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Buy Now: $35.00
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Real 64GB Drives are Priced as
http://pricespy.co.nz/#rparams=ss=64gb%20usb%20flash" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Suspicous and Fake Flash Drives

Post by Googlybear » Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:52 pm

USB flash memory stick 256GB no reserve
http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/exte ... 376788.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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256GB but not very good quality
I wonder why?

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Re: Suspicous and Fake Flash Drives

Post by Googlybear » Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:29 am

More 4GB rebranded as 64GB

64GB USB flash memory
http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/exte ... 023313.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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pick your suspect... i choose dhgate
https://www.google.co.nz/#q=%2213.+Plas ... b&safe=off" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

vottana
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Re: Suspicous and Fake Flash Drives

Post by Googlybear » Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:35 pm

GOLD USB FLASHDRIVE 256GB NEW $1 RESERVE
http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/exte ... 019603.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- Sold for $66 - another TradeMe member gets scammed -

Seller is collecting bad feedback due to the fake capacity but as TM did not remove the last listings he see`s nothing wrong with continuing

dotske
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Feedba ... er=3578283" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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the flash drive doesn't work properly once copied over 10 gigs

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Re: Suspicous and Fake Flash Drives

Post by Foggyone » Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:15 pm

Googlybear, a question.

Fake USB's have been around for a long time. If I remember correctly they were altered to show the alleged size, but dropped info when exceeding the real size.. If someone were unlucky enought to get one (I haven't, all mine are genuine and small sized) is there any way they can be repaired to the correct size so as to be safe to use?
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Re: Suspicous and Fake Flash Drives

Post by Googlybear » Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:19 am

it depends if you can find out the type of firmware that the hacked drive contains.
It`s the data on that chip that get reprogrammed by the fraudsters to report fake capacities.

This software just sends a special signal/code to the drive that the on-board chips are designed to detect and then switch into re-programming mode.
The Hacker would then just enter the new drive capacity info they want written to the chips into the software interface and then that new info is then sent to the firmware to be written.

If you know the firmware and controller chip that the drive contains, then its simply a matter of finding the software that can reprogram that particular model drive and then enter the original capacity to program it back to its genuine capacity.
You need to look up the drives PID and VID Numbers using Software such as Chipgenuis which can then be googled to find out the appropriate reflashing software to be used

Flash drives also contain a controller chip which performs the actual job of taking the data you want copied to the drive and writing it to the memory chip,

When the fraudsters hack a drive to a larger size, not only does the memory containing the drive capacity size need to be altered but the code that runs the controller chip also need to be reprogrammed.
If not, then when the controller retrieves the drive capacity size from the firmware data, it will treat that size as true and not know any thing is amiss.
When the time comes for the controller to attempt to write data past the true capacity, that memory location will not physically exist and the chip will become confused & lock up.
That`s why you read in forums about drives purchased from ebay that keep locking up. They were hacked by amatuers or lazy fraudsters that didn`t do the job properly.

Once the controller is reprogrammed, it is instructed not to attempt to try and write past the true capacity but instead either start writing new data to the begining of the memory overwriting the data already there, or more commonly just ignore any new data and not attempt to write to the drive it at all.
if it needs to read data that is supposed to be stored past the true capacity, the controller is instructed to just create made-up random garbage data instead

Apart from the hassle of having to find the correct application to reprogram the drives, there is also a few other problems that often make it not worthwhile.
The first that most fake drives usually contain junk memory to start with. it will usually be extremely slow and may only last 6 month before dying, taking all your data with it.

The other problem is whether the true capacity makes it worthwhile.
Some fake drives have a true capacity of around 8GB which is OK but many of the oldest drives such as the metal leather type have no more than 512MB.

one easy but incomplete work-around for fake capacity drives is to just delete the partition on the drive using partitioning software and then re-create a new partion with the size set slightly lower than the true capacity of the drive leaving the remaining capacity which does not exist as an unpartitioned area.
I did this for a MP3 player i got from china that was supposed to be 8GB but was only 2GB.

This is only a good idea if the victim plans on not reselling the drive as any other unwitting user may repartition the drive back to max allowable size again.

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Re: Suspicous and Fake Flash Drives

Post by Foggyone » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:45 pm

Thanks for that very comprehensive and helpful post.

The main thing I take from your reply is that hacked USB's are usually junk to start with, so just discard them and save further heartache.
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